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didn't come from the nra. what value does it have to have an armed police officer, a 50-year-old guy, maybe an ex-police officer, retired police officer, standing somewhere near the lobby of the main door of a high school in philly. would it have any value? >> well, here's the deal, chris. in many instances, as we saw in newtown, certainly, the person doesn't always come in the front door. and while in very specific situations, in certain schools, whether it's officers patrolling nearby or as a part of their regular duties coming into schools, this is not really a serious idea. the issue is less guns. and certainly, less semi-automatic weapons, rifles of this type. the issue is about the type of weapons that should be accessible and available to civilians. and that no one has made any legitimate argument or case as to why military-style, converted weapons, i'm not going to go through the splitting hairs argument about it's not really that, it's been converted to something else. it's a semi-automatic weapon of
didn't come from the nra. what value does it have to have an armed police officer, a 50-year-old guy, maybe an ex-police officer, retired police officer, standing somewhere near the lobby of the main door of a high school in philly. would it have any value? >> well, here's the deal, chris. in many instances, as we saw in newtown, certainly, the person doesn't always come in the front door. and while in very specific situations, in certain schools, whether it's officers patrolling nearby...
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you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. these are the same people we call if there is an active shooter event in 911. so instead of waiting the five minutes to get them there, they are present, they are law enforcement, they are professionals, they know how to handle themselves. the nra is using in as an excuse to circumvent the argument on gun control, and that's wrong. that's not what our inte
you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune...
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the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. a res, try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. [ male announcer ] when diarrhea hits, kaopectate stops it fast. powerful liquid relief speeds to the source. fast. [ male announcer ] stop the uh-oh fast with kaopectate. >>> a morning show usually sounds like a fraternity show. after the sandy hoo
the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. a res, try...
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ahead, the nra's chief -- the chief's plan. to arm teachers across the country is happening right now. aum over the country. we cannot let this happen. and the obamas reveal some secrets from behind the scenes, including the story behind the most shared photo of all time. stay with us. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including adva
ahead, the nra's chief -- the chief's plan. to arm teachers across the country is happening right now. aum over the country. we cannot let this happen. and the obamas reveal some secrets from behind the scenes, including the story behind the most shared photo of all time. stay with us. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair...
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the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's governing us. >> thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our busine
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they were the ones who interrupted nra president wayne la pierre's big press conference. let's hear from their organizer, and then a gun owner waiting in line for the show. >> they can hear us and they know we are here. >> there are things that can be done to strengthen gun laws, but outright banning the sale of certain weapons is not going to solve any problems. those weapons are still on the street. what you want to do is keep them out of the hands of criminals. >> derek. earlier you were talking about a confrontation. there were a couple of confrontations between protesters and gun enthusiasts. for now, live in chantilly, virginia, deb deposit, 9news. >>> coming up at 7:00 we'll tell you how the newtown massacre has teachers thinking about arming themselves. we'll have all of that story and much more on 9news at 7:00. >>> still ahead, how your neighborhoods are preparing for this weekend's snow. >>> and right after the break, find out what happens when airport screeners find nearly $400,000 worth of heroin in a woman's suitcase. stay with us, we'll be right back. >>> a
they were the ones who interrupted nra president wayne la pierre's big press conference. let's hear from their organizer, and then a gun owner waiting in line for the show. >> they can hear us and they know we are here. >> there are things that can be done to strengthen gun laws, but outright banning the sale of certain weapons is not going to solve any problems. those weapons are still on the street. what you want to do is keep them out of the hands of criminals. >> derek....
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what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot to say again about who he thinks is to blame. have a listen. >> look, i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. i know there are political -- for 20 years they always try to say it's because americans own guns. i'm telling you what i think will make people safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off at school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy, that if some horrible
what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot...
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we are putting a huge amount of pressure on congress, legislators, on the nra. you can go to the website, 1 million moms for gun control.org right now and sign a petition and people are asking for gun control laws that we have crashed the servers many, many times and we are optimistic that, you know, after not doing anything, after aurora and gabby giffords and virginia tech, we will get some action this time. >> in 2010, the brady center to prevent gun violence gave president obama a "f" rating. do you think that now is the time for the president to be able to -- to control this issue in a more positive direction, when i talk about control this issue, i mean the sentiment and the emotion that goes in to all americans responding to what we saw in newtown. >> you know, i don't think he has a choice with 80 million american moms coming at him. we have done nothing before and hasn't worked. i think the nra and frankly many congressmen laid out what they see for us in the country where the bad and good guys are armed and duke it out over our kids' heads. we won't al
we are putting a huge amount of pressure on congress, legislators, on the nra. you can go to the website, 1 million moms for gun control.org right now and sign a petition and people are asking for gun control laws that we have crashed the servers many, many times and we are optimistic that, you know, after not doing anything, after aurora and gabby giffords and virginia tech, we will get some action this time. >> in 2010, the brady center to prevent gun violence gave president obama a...
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the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's actually governing us. >> l.z. granderson and anna navarro, thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. >>> connecticut's number one fm radio show usually sounds like a fraternity show. after the sandy hook shooting, the two radio hosts got serious and started taking calls from people trying to deal with the tragedy. >> we like to call it a town hall meeting held in a frat house. friday was strange. we went from in the morning doing one of the most happy, upbeat, fun shows of the year. >> next year's going to be even better. >> to in the afternoon doing the saddest show of our careers. >> he was one of the
the nra is one example. once upon a time, we were against cigarette companies and tobacco companies to do the right thing. what we're experiencing right now, is the same thing we're going to continue to experience until we get serious about the way we're being governed and who's actually governing us. >> l.z. granderson and anna navarro, thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to...
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and what we're talking about here, if you actually take the nra's proposal to its logical conclusion, if we want to really protect all kids, we need to actually put an armed guard in every wing. maybe in front of every classroom. and that's why we've said that schools should be safe sanctuaries, not armed fortresses. are there some schools that need to have armed police officers? of course. but the nra's proposal is to put more guns in schools, not less guns in schools and to actually -- to actually make schools into armed fortresses as opposed to the safe sanctuaries to the learning conditions. >> mr. lapierre said though signs that say gun free zone around schools invite criminals to come on to schools. what's your response to that? >> you know something? we have had 34,000 children who have been harmed in gun incidents all throughout the country every single year. there's over 5,000 kids who have been killed by armed -- or by gun incidents. there is a time and place in this country where we need to deal with gun violence. so is mr. la pierre saying throughout the country he's going
and what we're talking about here, if you actually take the nra's proposal to its logical conclusion, if we want to really protect all kids, we need to actually put an armed guard in every wing. maybe in front of every classroom. and that's why we've said that schools should be safe sanctuaries, not armed fortresses. are there some schools that need to have armed police officers? of course. but the nra's proposal is to put more guns in schools, not less guns in schools and to actually -- to...
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when the nra is throwing around all sorts of fake notions that are in the fake dialogue. no one is saying that you can stop everyone of these things. how hard do you you want to make it? the risk of the gun in the home is greater than the benefit. as the owner of the gun in connecticut found out when his son got his hands on it. and the denaccidents happen in homes with guns. how hard is that to find out. >> go figure. the other issue today is that looking around the web, it is actually easier to go online and purchase a 100 round clip high capacity magazine than it is to renew my driver's license in florida. if you transfer $10,000 of your money, it triggers your bank that goes to the federal government. but you can go online and with free holiday shipping purchase a high capacity magazine. even the law enforcement in the communities have no way of know ing a large number of weapons, perhaps a bullet proof vest. that might send off a few alarms. making it harder to sexercise te right to vote. we should think that people are more responsible owning a gun than casting a ba
when the nra is throwing around all sorts of fake notions that are in the fake dialogue. no one is saying that you can stop everyone of these things. how hard do you you want to make it? the risk of the gun in the home is greater than the benefit. as the owner of the gun in connecticut found out when his son got his hands on it. and the denaccidents happen in homes with guns. how hard is that to find out. >> go figure. the other issue today is that looking around the web, it is actually...
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the republicans are owned by the nra. and the democrats are literally intimidated into submission, and no one seems to care that guns are unrestricted. >> eliot: john, you have laid out both just now and in many of your articles reasons smart moderate proposals that you would think gun owners such as you could agree to. and one of the political questions consequently that mystifies me is why does the nra have such a monopoly of power when it comes to the gun issue. if you look at the polling data, most americans support a background check. and most americans are with you supporting the reasoned efforts to prevent guns from falling into the hands of the wrong people. why is the republican congress and frankly i shouldn't say it that way. why are so many afraid to raise their voice on this issue. why is there such so cowardice on this issue. >> money. a big wall street equity firm are buying up gun companies. wall street hates regulation and the only product in america not regulated is the real begun. toy guns and teddy bea
the republicans are owned by the nra. and the democrats are literally intimidated into submission, and no one seems to care that guns are unrestricted. >> eliot: john, you have laid out both just now and in many of your articles reasons smart moderate proposals that you would think gun owners such as you could agree to. and one of the political questions consequently that mystifies me is why does the nra have such a monopoly of power when it comes to the gun issue. if you look at the...
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it's time to stop being afraid of the nra. time to stop changing the subject when guns are brought up. you, democratic politicians, can run on common sense gun restrictions, and you can win. for the first time in decades, there is now a political price to be paid for gun extremism, and i have got an idea for your first commercial. did you happen to see wayne lapierre on "meet the press"? that does it for us on "the cycle." karen finney is in the chair for martin bashir and it is all yours. >> thanks, krystal. good afternoon. i'm karen finney in for martin bashir on this thursday, december 27th. the president is back in washington, the senate is working against the clock, and speaker boehner, yeah, he's m.i.a. >> no new negotiations are scheduled. >> congress has five days to strike a deal before the end of the year deadline. >> they're calling it the fiscal cliff. [ speaking foreign language ] >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> let's take
it's time to stop being afraid of the nra. time to stop changing the subject when guns are brought up. you, democratic politicians, can run on common sense gun restrictions, and you can win. for the first time in decades, there is now a political price to be paid for gun extremism, and i have got an idea for your first commercial. did you happen to see wayne lapierre on "meet the press"? that does it for us on "the cycle." karen finney is in the chair for martin bashir and...
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sibolt, are you comfortable with what the nra put forward today? >> absolutely. more guns equals less crime. if we don't arm our teachers, if we don't have guards at the schools, there's no question about it that this is going to happen again. but at least the teachers have a fighting chance. at least they have a fighting chance to save those little kids. >> i don't want to read into this. do i understand your view that it would be a requirement for teachers? what if i'm a teacher who doesn't want to carry a firearm. i'm not proficient and i want nothing to do with guns. >> i don't want my kid in your class then. my kid is in danger. i'll send my kid to another school where the teacher is willing. >> so to a young person in school today maybe pursuing a career in college to school young people, they would also need to be trained and comfortable with the idea of carrying a weapon? >> unfortunately, this is the world we live in. >> one last thing, daefd. by that logic, why not arm the students as well? >> because the students are children. >> a high school? an 18-y
sibolt, are you comfortable with what the nra put forward today? >> absolutely. more guns equals less crime. if we don't arm our teachers, if we don't have guards at the schools, there's no question about it that this is going to happen again. but at least the teachers have a fighting chance. at least they have a fighting chance to save those little kids. >> i don't want to read into this. do i understand your view that it would be a requirement for teachers? what if i'm a teacher...
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i am the nra, okay? i am the nra. and my daddy was nra, and my granddaddy was the nra, and it's about my right to have a shotgun in my house, in the back of my truck, to go hunting, to protect my family, to let anybody know if they come to my castle, they're not going to leave in the middle of the night, if they break into my house, i'm going to take my gun and i'm going to kill them. and that's my right. it ain't got anything to do with assault weapons or these magazine clips that allow you to spray down 20 young children or people in malls or people in movie theaters. that is not the nra of my friends and church members in northwest florida. that is not the nra that they know. it is not the nra of survivalists or people who believe the federal government is coming to kick down their door and, you know, and seize all their property. >> you heard my father on the set yesterday after a day of hunting who said yeah, fine. give me a deep psychological examination, whatever. i don't need an assault weapon. it's not so har
i am the nra, okay? i am the nra. and my daddy was nra, and my granddaddy was the nra, and it's about my right to have a shotgun in my house, in the back of my truck, to go hunting, to protect my family, to let anybody know if they come to my castle, they're not going to leave in the middle of the night, if they break into my house, i'm going to take my gun and i'm going to kill them. and that's my right. it ain't got anything to do with assault weapons or these magazine clips that allow you to...
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this is not just an issue of the nra and where the nra sits on issues. gun crime is down. violent crime is down. these mass shootings are up. what is the x factor here? is it the guns or is it something else? there is strong evidence that points to something else. >> i would add all three guns used in the shooting purchased legally. connecticut has some of the most strict gun laws in the country. >> they do. >> fred, you've polled for many years on this and many other topics. the numbers on gun control broadly not speaking the last two weeks but broadly suggest the country is -- would prefer less strictures rather than more to enforce what we have rather than more. we've seen the numbers change a little bit. is this an upward trend or not? >> i don't know. i think the jury is still out on this, chris. i think in terms of this, is this a tipping point moment, it is, but it all depends on what it is. is it a tipping point moment where the congress and the president moved in one direction? >> right. >> is it a tipping point moment from the nra in terms of its image with the p
this is not just an issue of the nra and where the nra sits on issues. gun crime is down. violent crime is down. these mass shootings are up. what is the x factor here? is it the guns or is it something else? there is strong evidence that points to something else. >> i would add all three guns used in the shooting purchased legally. connecticut has some of the most strict gun laws in the country. >> they do. >> fred, you've polled for many years on this and many other topics....
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there's a plug at the nra wheels. the less people fear that, politicians, political leaders, the more we engage in a conversation. maybe gun control wasn't the issue per se. background check or other issues. a broader conversation, does anyone need eight guns, ten guns, 12 guns, are we dealing with an army? they are cultural. you can change the culture as we have in other cases with drunk-driving and other issues. we have the conversation about whether we should have the conversation. it takes place in the wake of a tragedy. the question is when can we get beyond that and have conversations about guns. we'll get into that after this. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. so i never missed a beat. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number
there's a plug at the nra wheels. the less people fear that, politicians, political leaders, the more we engage in a conversation. maybe gun control wasn't the issue per se. background check or other issues. a broader conversation, does anyone need eight guns, ten guns, 12 guns, are we dealing with an army? they are cultural. you can change the culture as we have in other cases with drunk-driving and other issues. we have the conversation about whether we should have the conversation. it takes...
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the nra pledging money and resources to create what it calls a national safety shield program. at the same time, blasting media, it says, from profiting from a culture of violence. michelle? >> what kind of reaction is he getting to the suggestion that every school in america have an armed police officer? are we hearing anybody from capitol hill or advocacy groups for anybody that will agree or disagree? >> from the gun control advocacy groups, obviously outrage, blistering attacks on what la pierre has said. but again strange silence we have had all week specifically from the republican leadership on, you know, it's what's next as far as getting in the whole dialogue of sensible gun controls and other aspects of really the whole problem that we all agree needs to be reexamined. >> thank you, hampton. sue? >> you got it. >> michelle, as you know, we are awaiting president obama's news conference. he is expected to nominate senator john kerry as next secretary of state. well take that live when it does occur. plus, with the fiscal cliff follies upon us, how do you protect your p
the nra pledging money and resources to create what it calls a national safety shield program. at the same time, blasting media, it says, from profiting from a culture of violence. michelle? >> what kind of reaction is he getting to the suggestion that every school in america have an armed police officer? are we hearing anybody from capitol hill or advocacy groups for anybody that will agree or disagree? >> from the gun control advocacy groups, obviously outrage, blistering attacks...
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are not nearly as extreme as the nra leadership is on this. so i think there's a possibility of getting some common sense gun control measures passed. and you know, i know it doesn't look like this congress can do anything, but i think we need to try, and i think if we have the support of the nra members, we have an opportunity. you know, for concealed carry permits which they want to extend to every state, there are at least ought to be some minimum standards. for example, you ought to be an adult in order to be able to get a concealed carry permit. so those are common sense measures. i think we start with those. and we have a dialogue, as senator mansion and others suggested, see if we can at least make some progress on an issue that you know, has to be addressed. if we don'ten respond after the sandy hook elementary school massacre, we really are complicit in the next massacre of innocent children and we've got to ask ourselves, is our political future really more important than the lives of these innocent children. >> congressman jim moran
are not nearly as extreme as the nra leadership is on this. so i think there's a possibility of getting some common sense gun control measures passed. and you know, i know it doesn't look like this congress can do anything, but i think we need to try, and i think if we have the support of the nra members, we have an opportunity. you know, for concealed carry permits which they want to extend to every state, there are at least ought to be some minimum standards. for example, you ought to be an...
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he said this about the nra's proposal. let's watch. >> public wants guns out of the schools not in schools and they're not asking for a security official or someone else. i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think that they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not he have human being should own a gun. not every gun should be available at any time anywhere for anyone. >> i mentioned this before on the air because it meant a lot to me bobby kennedy was killed and it hit a lot of us in our hearts and i wrote a congressman. but it seems mayor nutter and gene what happens is everybody gets reactive. we all react, and then notice how wayne lapierre who is a brilliant professional. he waits a couple weeks. a couple weeks in now he will be the only one doing this full time. >> people who are interested in saying gun control laws have got to keep up the pressure, have got to keep up the focus and not do what you just said, not conform to this general pattern of
he said this about the nra's proposal. let's watch. >> public wants guns out of the schools not in schools and they're not asking for a security official or someone else. i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think that they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not he have human being should own a gun. not every gun should be available at any time anywhere for anyone. >> i mentioned this before on the air because...
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colin, a question, are you a nra member? not to put on the spot. >> i am, i'm a lifetime member. >> do you have high capacity clips? >> i do not. do you see the need to restrict those? >> it's on the edge of what is supposed to be allowed. this is relatively close to it. there's reaches that i think a lot of people are going to talk about. it's possible that a high capacity magazine restriction could be done in a way that is constitutional, and i'm not sure that frankly it's going to be that useful, that effective. i do not think that those are the solutions that will stop the epidemic of violence, it's right at the edge of what is possible. >> you eluded to this before the break, politically, there may not be the will. fact of the matter is there could very well not be the will two months from now in the halls of congress. what are you hearing about this as the tragedy becomes more of a memory to a lot of folks? >> well, i mean, everyone of course, is very upset about this, and thinks that there needs to be a conversation,
colin, a question, are you a nra member? not to put on the spot. >> i am, i'm a lifetime member. >> do you have high capacity clips? >> i do not. do you see the need to restrict those? >> it's on the edge of what is supposed to be allowed. this is relatively close to it. there's reaches that i think a lot of people are going to talk about. it's possible that a high capacity magazine restriction could be done in a way that is constitutional, and i'm not sure that frankly...
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and that's what i think -- that was the moral question to the nra. is this just the cost of doing business to you? are you willing to accept that we live in this kind of society where these kinds of horrific tragedies happen? and i think the whole nation stopped and waited to hear the response. and i think the answer is very disappointing because we can do better than this. you know, there are many countries. 23 of the richest industrial countries on earth except for us have 1/20 of our death rate from guns. this can be done. it's not that it can't be done. we can ban assault weapons, as senator feinstein is proposing, including the re weapon that was used in sandy hook, legally bought by the perpetrator's mother. that could have been banned. the large magazine rounds where you can fire off multiple rounds, that should have been done. background checks, 40% of guns are bought by people who don't have to go -- that's on the secondary market, they can avoid a background check. this is not necessary. we can do something like this. >> eloquently stated.
and that's what i think -- that was the moral question to the nra. is this just the cost of doing business to you? are you willing to accept that we live in this kind of society where these kinds of horrific tragedies happen? and i think the whole nation stopped and waited to hear the response. and i think the answer is very disappointing because we can do better than this. you know, there are many countries. 23 of the richest industrial countries on earth except for us have 1/20 of our death...
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this country with respect to gun control. >> and -- >> totally agree with that. >> go ahead. >> the nra counts on shows like this show eventually using interest. you see -- shows like this have a major responsibility to focus on the carnage that occurs on our streets. look what's happening with the kids in chicago. >> one thing to keep in mind is that this conversation isn't going away because, you know, the president formed a task force. vice president biden is in charge of that task force. they've been given a deadline of january to present ideas to the president. the president gives his state of the union address in early february. and then it's off to the races and trying to get something done. so the idea that the president isn't going to push hard on doing something about gun safety, gun control, however you want to talk about it i think is a little bit ludicrous. julian and james, thanks very much. >> thank you. >> happy new year. >> stay with us. much more ahead. >> many new year. >> happy new year. in this country we say happy new year. >> ha, ha, ha, ha! safety, gun control, h
this country with respect to gun control. >> and -- >> totally agree with that. >> go ahead. >> the nra counts on shows like this show eventually using interest. you see -- shows like this have a major responsibility to focus on the carnage that occurs on our streets. look what's happening with the kids in chicago. >> one thing to keep in mind is that this conversation isn't going away because, you know, the president formed a task force. vice president biden is in...
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if past is prologue, where is the nra's next move going forward? >> well, you know, i think that's a good question because past may not be prologue here. the past was that the obama administration saw absolutely no chance of getting this flew congress. president obama when he campaigned for his first term, said he would like to look at reveezing the assault weapons ban. the white house sent some gentle signal early on they might try to do that, and it was instantly clear that they backed away from it. the mere prospect of president obama's being elected caused a huge run on ammunition, police departments were almost running out of it. now many democrats think the situation is different because of newtown and the other mass shootings this year, so i guess we're going to find out whether past is prologue. things have -- things may have changed. we're going to have to see how much they have. >> senators kay bailey hutchison and mark warren yesterday segment nauling their willing tons talk about this, and most likely the conversation leading itself to
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the nra makes it seem like -- they fearmonger toward that idea but i think we need to not be offensive to those who have been killed and will be in the future by gun violence that can be -- and the nra leadership battles against even the most simple common sensical responses to this massive problem. >> and the white house certainly going to push. the president is going to talk about guns in his state of the union address next month. and my piece lays out as he does that, he can call for certain gun safety things. there's a lot that polls well, a lot that could arguably help deal with various problems. but the white house knows based on the polling that the president's going to have to talk about it as part of a balanced approach and cliche again today. and that he's going to have to explain in it a way that it doesn't seem like he's tramibling on the 2nd amendment. >> yeah. i actually agree with that, james. i think go ahead with gun control, go ahead with the things that make sense but in a way that's respectful. kudos for number two on the list, only use the word rape in condemnation
the nra makes it seem like -- they fearmonger toward that idea but i think we need to not be offensive to those who have been killed and will be in the future by gun violence that can be -- and the nra leadership battles against even the most simple common sensical responses to this massive problem. >> and the white house certainly going to push. the president is going to talk about guns in his state of the union address next month. and my piece lays out as he does that, he can call for...
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why is that more effective than the nra proposal to put armed guards in every school? >> well in the first place, 1/3 of america's public schools does have armed guards. secondly, there were armed guards at columbine, they couldn't stop the shooters. so, the question comes, what do we do about the growing sophistication of military weapons on the streets of our cities? they aren't good hunting weapons, no hunter worth their salt would use an assault weapon to hunt, and, what we'd do is take the earlier bill and strengthen it in many ways, prevent the gun manufacturers, from getting around it as they did. go to a one physical characteristic test and take specific models and ban mayor manufacture, sale and transfer and take the weapons that are grandfathered, that are in possession now, and put them under the federal firearms act. so that they would be licensed, there would be background checks down. america has to bite the bullet of what these incidents mean to our people, to our nation, and our nation's standing in the world. when you have someone walking in and flayin
why is that more effective than the nra proposal to put armed guards in every school? >> well in the first place, 1/3 of america's public schools does have armed guards. secondly, there were armed guards at columbine, they couldn't stop the shooters. so, the question comes, what do we do about the growing sophistication of military weapons on the streets of our cities? they aren't good hunting weapons, no hunter worth their salt would use an assault weapon to hunt, and, what we'd do is...
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she had some very nice things to say obviously false about the nra. listen to this. >> i swear to you, the nra has this conspiracy floating that obama is a muslim brother hood creature that he's trying to get a third term like he's, i don't know, mayor bloc bloomberg. you better stock up on your guns anyway because he might do it, he just might do it, you just can't not buy a gun. what would jesus buy? there's a war on christmas. yeah. the people with the guns are waging it. it's very weird. >> very bizarre. i mean, is this -- how do you listen to hours of this vitriol. >> it's torture, but there's a bubble out there. there's a progressive bubble. you go to parts of the bay area or whatever, and this is what they're talking about. this is what they're saying. the rest of american has no idea. they would love to make obama president for life. is there any doubt? >> sean: not in my mind for sure. i thk
she had some very nice things to say obviously false about the nra. listen to this. >> i swear to you, the nra has this conspiracy floating that obama is a muslim brother hood creature that he's trying to get a third term like he's, i don't know, mayor bloc bloomberg. you better stock up on your guns anyway because he might do it, he just might do it, you just can't not buy a gun. what would jesus buy? there's a war on christmas. yeah. the people with the guns are waging it. it's very...
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it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table off the top here. i watched that press conference or that statement with mounting horror and anger, but i was also aware that a lot of people in america would have watched it and said he's right. >> yeah, people will say that the answer to every escalating sort of violent act in america is the ability to use more violence to counter that. and it never stops. so you're going to give a security guard a regular gun against someone who has an assault weapon. so when the assault weapon overpowers the regular gun, you give the security guard in the school an assault weapon, where does this end? it doesn't end.
it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table...
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the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal cliff. will they get a deal done before the end of the year, president obama is on vacation and so is house speaker john boehner, but here's what they said before they left. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal, and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> for more on all this i want to bring in nbc's white house correspondent kristen welker who is traveling with the president in hawaii. she joins us now from honolulu. hey, kristen. the president and the speaker are st
the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal...
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host: we have had two references on the nra and gun control. this is from "the washington post" this morning -- up about essethe outlines some e problems facing our society -- he outlines some of the problems facing our society than they do you support any of these new laws. guest: it is too soon to be looking at those types of issues. what happened in connecticut is outrageous. it is horrible. all of us are just very saddened. we all need to pray for the whole nation. what happened there not only affected the people in the state of connecticut but all americans. host: should somebody who is clearly unstable have access to these high-powered rifles? guest: i do not all the facts about what happened there about guns. we should not be talking about gun control. we need to let the country start healing and then looking at what the real root causes of this horrible murder was all about. host: what are those root causes? guest: i don't know and it obviously he was mentally unstable. it has been reported that what made him snap was that his mom was g
host: we have had two references on the nra and gun control. this is from "the washington post" this morning -- up about essethe outlines some e problems facing our society -- he outlines some of the problems facing our society than they do you support any of these new laws. guest: it is too soon to be looking at those types of issues. what happened in connecticut is outrageous. it is horrible. all of us are just very saddened. we all need to pray for the whole nation. what happened...
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. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private security guards. there may be some places where they want volunteers to do it. we're willing to work with everybody on those questions. >> it's a much softer stance than just one week ago. here's what the nra's executive vp said back then. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> at the time, wayne lapierre said armed officers were the only way to prevent another massacre like the one that happened in newtown. >>> president obama summoning congressional leaders to the white house, 3:00 this aft
. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private...
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the nra breaks its silence. president obama and communities all over america paused in a moment of silence. president obama is calling for a ban on assault weapons. today, the nra offered a rather different solution. publicly breaking the silence. the silence for the first time since the massacre, the nra proposed a sweeping plan to have armed guards at every school in the nation. >> the truth is our society is populated by an unknown number of genuine monsters. people that are so deranged, so evil, so possessed by voices and driven by demons that no sane person can ever possibly comprehend them. they walk among us every single day. and does anybody really believe that the next adam lanza isn't planning his attack on a school? since when did a gun automatically become a bad word? a gun in the hands of a secret service agent protecting our president isn't a bad word. a gun in the hands of a soldier protecting the united states of america isn't a bad word. and when you hear your glass breaking at 3:00 a.m. and you
the nra breaks its silence. president obama and communities all over america paused in a moment of silence. president obama is calling for a ban on assault weapons. today, the nra offered a rather different solution. publicly breaking the silence. the silence for the first time since the massacre, the nra proposed a sweeping plan to have armed guards at every school in the nation. >> the truth is our society is populated by an unknown number of genuine monsters. people that are so...
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the gun rights activists and the nra don't stop talking about it. they regain the traction they had momentarily lost. there is still hope for that issue, but the president really needs to move on that in january wile also remembering that the first three priorities are the economy, the economy, and the economy. >> how -- i think part of the sad reality is there will continue to be gun violence between now and the time that any legislation is proposed, but how do we keep the pressure on, and again i think this question of getting something meaningful done because as dana pointed out, we know the nra isn't stopping. they are knocking on doors and making phone calls. how do we make sure something doesn't get watered down in the enand we get something meaningful? >> the key thing is to remember that the president has the bully pulpit and there are 535 people on capitol hill who can do something by sending a bill to the president that he can sign into law, but none of that is going to happen unless the anger that was there in the immediate hours and days
the gun rights activists and the nra don't stop talking about it. they regain the traction they had momentarily lost. there is still hope for that issue, but the president really needs to move on that in january wile also remembering that the first three priorities are the economy, the economy, and the economy. >> how -- i think part of the sad reality is there will continue to be gun violence between now and the time that any legislation is proposed, but how do we keep the pressure on,...
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we are the nra and the and are a. nra. host: those of the words of senator joe manchin who is a gun advocate. we're taking your calls and comments -- will it be a bitter fight ahead? we go to the democrats' line from macon, georgia. caller: how many children are we going to lose to guns before something is done? i remember during the 08 election, there were people around the president of the united states with assault rifles. we put people in schools with the guns, what happens if there in the restroom and somebody breaks and from the front? how are they going to protect the children? how many children do we have to lose? host: thanks for the call -- let me share with you this photograph from "the new york daily news." a handful of students tried to flee and lanza shot teem. some of the other fallen students are in the photograph. because of the teacher process protection, most of her students survived a car. -- survived a the horror. asheville, north carolina, republican line. caller: i would like to say one thing and i t
we are the nra and the and are a. nra. host: those of the words of senator joe manchin who is a gun advocate. we're taking your calls and comments -- will it be a bitter fight ahead? we go to the democrats' line from macon, georgia. caller: how many children are we going to lose to guns before something is done? i remember during the 08 election, there were people around the president of the united states with assault rifles. we put people in schools with the guns, what happens if there in the...
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. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs those types of multiple clips as far as ammunition. >> reporter: and former republican congressman, joe scarborough, now an msnbc host also reversed himself on gun control. >> politicians can no longer be allowed to defend the status quo. they must instead be forced to defend our children. >> reporter: but at least one texas republican continues to defend the right of americans to own assault weapons. >> it ensures against the tyranny of the government. >> reporter: amid the talk of gun control, gun sales have picked up. in portland, just a week after a gunman killed two in an area mall. >> yesterday was the biggest
. >> shame on nra. >> reporter: as protesters gathered outside offices in washington, the nra again declined to comment on the debate, but there were signs that the sandy hook massacre has impacted capitol hill. >> as your senator i will protect our second amendment rights. >> reporter: west virginia senator, joe manchin, a life-long nra member said he is rethinking his own positions. >> i don't know anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know...
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guns, the nra. in a few minutes we'll get reaction live from the democratic committee, debbie wasserman schultz. she'll be here in "the situation room." she has strong views on these issues. >>> the political chaos up on capitol hill. after last night's stinging rejection by his own party, john boehner has no sole-called plan c for avoiding the fiscal cliff of tax hikes, spending cuts that hit in just 11 days. our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is joining us from capitol hill with the key question. dana, where do we go from here? >> reporter: well, the speaker insisted that he is not giving up on talks with the president but the reality is that since his plan b blew up, everybody is searching for a plan c that might not include the president and the speaker. but that plan c may include going off the fiscal cliff. the morning after his embarrassing fiscal cliff debacle at the hands of his own gop caucus, the speaker emerged with the understatement of the year. >> it's not the outcome th
guns, the nra. in a few minutes we'll get reaction live from the democratic committee, debbie wasserman schultz. she'll be here in "the situation room." she has strong views on these issues. >>> the political chaos up on capitol hill. after last night's stinging rejection by his own party, john boehner has no sole-called plan c for avoiding the fiscal cliff of tax hikes, spending cuts that hit in just 11 days. our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is joining us...
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that was a different nra i think. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, and, but they became politically the leadership that had approved the 68 gun control act was overthrown, replaced by others, and eventually by charles heston was a spokesman for that faction, and now we have, you know, wayne firmly in the saddle, and politically it's very different organization from what it was in 1968, very clearly. it's also been able to raise huge amounts of money and become maybe the most powerful lobby here in washington. it plays basically on the backlash on people's fears of, well, if crime is rising and the police can't do anything about it, then how are we going to keep ourselves from being robbed, murdered, rained, and so on? we need firearms to defend ourselves, and the nra certainly has been playing on that line for many years. >> host: but as crime was rising in the 80s and early 1990s, crack cocaine and the gangs and more sophisticated guns, congress acted again. i mean, really only the third time they acted to do gun c
that was a different nra i think. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, and, but they became politically the leadership that had approved the 68 gun control act was overthrown, replaced by others, and eventually by charles heston was a spokesman for that faction, and now we have, you know, wayne firmly in the saddle, and politically it's very different organization from what it was in 1968, very clearly. it's also been...
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the nra uses the media to spread its message, to raise money. that's what it is, it's a lobbying money-raising organization that gets political clout to give money to political people to give them big money to spread the message. to blame the media but it has nothing to do with using the implements of murder which have nothing to do witness. but the media that we use in a first amendment righted country to spread news, to give information, that is the culprit? out of touch. kelly: jim i was struck by what he said blaming the media and actually going out and reporting these facts that do take place, to let the american people what is going on, albeit it's very tragic and there have been copy-cats out there, but to blame the media out there. >> that is exactly right. there have been copy-cats out there. there has been kind of an iconic pre verse celebration of some of these killers who are sort of famous. there have been four movies made about the thrill killer, charles starkweather from the 1950s. four movies. i think another part of it is the im
the nra uses the media to spread its message, to raise money. that's what it is, it's a lobbying money-raising organization that gets political clout to give money to political people to give them big money to spread the message. to blame the media but it has nothing to do with using the implements of murder which have nothing to do witness. but the media that we use in a first amendment righted country to spread news, to give information, that is the culprit? out of touch. kelly: jim i was...